I by no means in my wildest desires would’ve imagined that that’s what she would seem like. That’s [an] interview that I noticed of her, and that’s what she was carrying. It’s simply so fantastically weird and doesn’t make sense, and by some means it does. The extra sophisticated and twisted the position, the extra enjoyable it’s to play for me. I really like making sense of a sizzling mess, you realize? It’s a number of enjoyable. It was laborious to attempt to discover humanity for [Ms. Golden], it was actually laborious. However I’ve empathy for her. I do know that she needed to come from a horrible atmosphere.
Was it Tonya’s telling of the story that everybody was a competitor, that she wasn’t presupposed to be associates with anyone she competed in opposition to?
That is Tonya’s model that her mom wouldn’t let her be associates, didn’t need her to have something that might distract her from getting the gold. In accordance with LaVona, each penny she earned went to Tonya’s skating, and he or she wasn’t going to let her waste a minute of it, figuring out the deck was stacked in opposition to her. There’s a fantastic interview of LaVona speaking in regards to the skating world, how the one factor that ought to matter is who’s the higher skater, however there have been so many different issues that sadly performed an element in whether or not or not you bought the great marks, whether or not or not you got here from household, when you had the prettiest skating costume, what music you selected. The judges decided what was half of an entire package deal. And Tonya very a lot didn’t match into that package deal.
You needed to play any person with such anger and keep that anger all over. How did you get to that place of venom and hardness again and again?
Simply arising in opposition to any person telling you you needed to be a sure option to get one thing. I can instantly connect with an anger about that.
My complete life, I believe [to myself], “You’re too tall. You possibly can’t do this.” Simply at all times feeling like I don’t do one thing the correct manner, or being obsessive about “Do I do it this manner or that manner?” I get mad at myself greater than I get mad at anyone else. So I can instantly faux that I’m speaking to some a part of me that I don’t like. I’ve at all times had a really harsh critic in my head. I exploit it after I have to carry that out. However I’m kinder to myself lately than I’ve been prior to now.
Does the chicken have a reputation? What sort of chicken was it?
I received’t bear in mind; I’m not a chicken particular person. I really like animals, however I used to be a bit of nervous about working with a chicken, as a result of birds peck, and I simply don’t know what they do. I obtained to audition three birds for the position.
The lady gave me one, I put it on my shoulder, and one among them saved crawling in my hair. And I used to be, like, “Subsequent.” The opposite one was very talkative. After which Little Man — I believe that was his identify — simply sat there and was so candy. I walked round with him and he simply continued to take a seat there like he might relax with me all day. I fell in love with him. Lower to filming, there’s a number of distraction. Within the final minute I made a decision to present LaVona emphysema, as a result of the chicken girl didn’t need us to smoke across the chicken. I used to be, like, “Oh, thank God I don’t must smoke on this scene.” So I had [an] oxygen tube and oxygen tank. Then that chicken, Little Man, obtained on my shoulder and have become fascinated with my oxygen tank factor and my ear, and simply saved poking at me. I used to be decided to not let something cease me from telling my aspect of the story. And this chicken was, like, “I’m going to make this as difficult for you as [possible].” He was sort of nice although, as a result of as an actor you generally get in your head, and he stopped that. I used to be both telling my story or coping with him. He helped me focus on this bizarre manner.
So that you at all times knew there was, to make use of this horrible time period, a casting sofa, however have you ever ever needed to cope with it?
I by no means ever needed to cope with the casting sofa. I’m actually grateful, however I additionally assume that was most likely as a result of I began working in my late 30s and I’m 6 toes tall. I most likely wasn’t somebody that appeared approachable in that manner. Fortuitously for me, that’s the place my top and age helped out. However how fantastic to consider a time when no actress should ever cope with that. It’s one thing we have now to speak about as a tradition, and get by way of it and transfer past it. [When] men and women are paid equally, then I believe the dialog will change, too. Perhaps that abuse received’t occur as a lot if we’re all on the identical taking part in discipline, which is surprising. Unhappy, too.